My interview on Todd Starnes’ radio program, regarding Rachel Maddow’s comments about Liberty University and Kerri Kupec
On December 18, 2018, I went on Todd Starnes’ radio program to respond to the comments made by MSNBC personality Rachel Maddow against Liberty University and our Law School.
Maddow’s smear came in the context of one of our excellent Law School graduates, Kerri Kupec, after the Justice Department named her the Director of its Office of Public Affairs.
You can listen to the archived broadcast HERE.
TODD STARNES: Another big story we’ve been focusing on, these outrageous and outlandish comments from Rachel Maddow attacking Liberty University.
Rachel Maddow: We’ve got a new Justice Department spokesperson [who’s from Liberty University, and Liberty University is founded by a televangelist so that your Christian child wouldn’t be corrupted by actual higher education, you know, and now that’s the spokesperson for the Justice Department. Like, these things add up. They have real results in the world. Is there going to be a backlash to that? Is there going to be a resurgent intellectualism and hard-line conservatism that isn’t the kind of white supremacist stuff that we’re seeing which is the pseudo-intellectual stuff, right? I don’t know.
STARNES: I’ve never heard, I have never heard horse crap spewing from the mouth of a human being like I’ve just heard from Rachel Maddow. It’s really unconscionable what she just did there, but she smeared the thousands and thousands and thousands of young people that have attended Liberty University, that have graduated from Liberty University, one of the finest institutions of higher learning in America. On the Newsmaker line right now to respond to this, the President of Liberty University, Jerry Falwell, Jr. President Falwell, welcome to the show.
FALWELL: Well, thanks for having me on such a busy news day, Todd.
STARNES: Well, this ranks right up there because it’s important for us to respond to these really just frivolous charges that Rachel Maddow levied earlier today.
FALWELL: Well, I’ve always thought Rachel Maddow was a joke. Every time I watch her, she’s got this silly smirk on her face, and when she makes stupid comments like Liberty is not a real university because it was founded by a televangelist, she needs to study her history. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, most of the Ivy League schools were founded by preachers and evangelists, and that’s a long tradition in this country, and she just shows her ignorance by making comments like that.
Liberty offers 520 programs of study. It’s been fully accredited since 1980. It was only founded in 1971, and it has a medical school, law school, school of engineering. We have 2500 professors from every major university, who got their degrees at every major university in the country. We have graduates going out into all the major graduate schools, into the workforce, and they’re coveted by employers, and it’s the right work ethic and they don’t expect … they don’t have an entitlement attitude. They go out with the idea of serving people and earning their way, and so I think she just shows her religious bigotry when she makes comments like that, and she would like to be an elitist, but I think it would be a compliment to call her that.
STARNES: Well said. You know, I looked at what happened at Berkeley when they invite conservative speakers onto their campus. All hell breaks loose, and they try to silence voices of dissent, and then I look at Liberty University. I mean, you guys certainly are a conservative school, but you’ve invited people like Bernie Sanders and Jimmy Carter to campus, and there were no protests. There were not people trying to shout them down or burn buildings.
FALWELL: No, no. I mean, that’s the other side of the coin. Those universities that were founded by good Christian people centuries ago are now places of indoctrination, liberal indoctrination. They are intolerant. You know, when I was in college in the ’80s, I’d go with my father when he spoke at Ivy League schools, and back then, they would boo and hiss a little bit, but they welcomed him. They treated him with respect, and liberals would say things like we may not agree with you, but we’ll die for your right to say it. Well, they don’t say that anymore. They’ve become fascists. They want to shut you up. They don’t want any other viewpoint but theirs to be expressed in the classroom. They ridicule conservative students who dare to speak up, and it’s not higher education anymore, and even Mayor Bloomberg said so in a commencement speech at Harvard a few years ago. When 96% of the faculty and staff of the Ivy League donates to the Obama campaign, you can’t have real education, and that’s just the bare facts.
STARNES: Well, no, you’re absolutely right about that. When you look at the quality of graduates coming out of Liberty, I know Kerri Kupec. I think she’s just a terrific person and a great choice to be a spokesperson at the DOJ. Shannon Bream, who is one of the great anchors here at Fox News. There are some terrific people coming out of that school.
FALWELL: Yes, and you can’t find 96% of our faculty who support any political party. They’re across the board. They all ascribe to the fundamentals of the Christian faith, but beyond that, their politics is their business. We do attract a lot of conservative faculty and students just because of who we are, but it’s not required, and it’s a shame that … and the reason Liberty is prospering because we don’t try to be like all those other schools that are their way or the highway, and that’s what higher education is supposed to be about, learn about what other people think so you can defend what you believe.
STARNES: And ultimately, those ideas are rooted in that Judeo-Christian philosophy that founded the country.
FALWELL: That’s all it is. It’s that simple, and that’s why America has been the most prosperous country in the history of mankind, and why Americans have been able, they’ve had the means to obey the commands oF Jesus to help the poor. You can’t help a poor person if you’re poor. You have to have free enterprise, you have to have freedom, and you have to have an absence of corruption in government and business. America has had all those things because of that Judeo-Christian ethic, and it’s the only reason that Americans have been able to obey the teachings of Jesus and help those in need is because of the form of government and the Judeo-Christian ethic of the American people.
STARNES: Well, President Falwell, I have a column up at Toddstarns.com, and I just flat out say that I would much rather have a private Christian university that affirms the teachings of Jesus Christ than a government-run university that affirms the teachings of Karl Marx.
FALWELL: Yeah, exactly, or even worse than that, you know, a lot of them are atheists and anarchists, and it’s just … I don’t know how they think that’s ever going to help make America a better place. It makes no sense.
STARNES: Agreed, agreed. Well, President Falwell, we know you’re a busy man, and we appreciate you coming on. I knew you wanted to respond to this nonsense coming out of MSNBC, but we proudly stand with Liberty University.
FALWELL: And I was nicer to Rachel than I should have been.
Todd: Well, if you want to have a last word, you’re more than welcome to do that.
FALWELL: Well, her ratings are all I need to say, and nobody takes her as a serious journalist, and she’s just a commentator and most people don’t agree with her, and all you’ve got to do is look at her ratings, so I’ll leave it at that.
STARNES: All right. Jerry Falwell, Jr., ladies and gentlemen, President of the great Liberty University, and folks, we stand alongside Liberty and Liberty’s graduates and current students on this radio program. Shame on you, Rachel Maddow. Shame on you.
Also, see here for a Liberty University press release on this topic.